20060115

Big Brother is watching


Big Brother is watching

I wanted to congratulate those supporters of the Bush administration's "war on terrorism." By giving your support to Bush your are encouraging the terrorists because they see that through your actions, or more correctly put, your inaction you are allowing them to succeed in their goal of changing the way we live in the United States.

As Bob Dylan sang, The times they are a-changing...

It is the Bush supporter that believes in that the 4th Amendment is worth sacraficing in the war on terrorism. First we learned that phone calls were being illegally wiretapped and the Bush supporters nodded in agreement.

Then it was learned that the NSA is spying on antiwar protestors. And once again the Bush supporters nodded in agreement.

I the latest example of the governments disregard for the 4th Amnendment we learn that the Department of Homeland Security is now opening the mail of private citizens without a warrant. I have little doubt that Bush supporters will be found nodding in agreement.

Will Bush supporters be found nodding in agreement when the government shows its disregard for the 2nd Amendment? Or will those like me who are opposed to the government's current (growing) contempt for the 4th Amendment have a plethora of new allies interested in protecting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

12 Comments:

Blogger Foilwoman said...

I linked to this on my blog (actually, linked to the MSN story, but also referred to you). I hope you don't mind.

1/15/2006 9:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ya know, it would be an interesting post except that your posting has merely shown an old adage to be true - "Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it." I could go on, but another blogger has outlined the 'other time' in American history when this came to pass.
http://stickandstone.blogspot.com/

BTW - I got here via a comment you left regarding the liberal 'fear factor' you are a living, breathing example of that fear factor.

1/15/2006 9:32 AM  
Blogger Opinionnation said...

61% of Americans are willing to give up some personal freedoms for the war on terror

58% of Americans say the President should have the power to authorize warrant-less wiretaps.

60% of Americans say that they would not mind if the NSA monitored their call if it were oversees.

Opinion Dynamics Poll

1/15/2006 2:44 PM  
Blogger Foilwoman said...

Opinionnation: That's just nifty. How many of that 58% to 60% believe that alien abductions occur? And buy lottery tickets as a form of investment?

Aside from the logical reality that mass idiocy is proof of nothing but mass idiocy (you're just documenting it), the Constitutional rights being violated (unreasonable searches and seizures, right to privacy in your own papers and conversations, freedom of association, little stuff like that) are, how to explain this? Constitutional fucking rights. The Constitution can be amended, but only by the amendment process set forth therein. That requires ratification by a supermajority. That hasn't happened, ergo, the behavior is unconsititutional and a violation of our basic founding documents. Wrong, criminal, unamerican, whatever. Your opinion poll, well, yeah, they voted for the twerp.

1/15/2006 6:07 PM  
Blogger M A F said...

Anonymous, Thanks for spamming (others blogs) and the irony of talking about the fear of others while you wear the brave face of anonimity.



O-N, Finally a poll that you can believe in. It was only a matter of time. Of course, I could resort to your ploy eh O-N, and deny the validity of the poll results without ever citing evidence to support the point. I have no doubt that there will be another poll like the AP/Ipsos poll that undercuts the FOX poll results. It is a matter of time.

These people, according to the poll, 58% believe in surrendering to the terrorists. Of course, the poll doesn't ask the specific question about illegal wiretaps. I wonder why? Maybe next time FOX will ask about illegal wire taps and opeing their mail.

I of course defer to the advice of Benjamin Franklin.

1/15/2006 6:25 PM  
Blogger M A F said...

Foilwoman, I should have deferred to you.
And thanks for including me.

1/15/2006 6:40 PM  
Blogger Opinionnation said...

The AP poll, given that they actually documented Dem vs. Rep ratio, showed they targeted democrats.

This Opinion Dynamics poll is comprehensive and has detailed questions. Look for yourself.

Now you deny accurate polls when recently you gave so much credence to biased polls, what is that?

I just provide the info, I don't make it up

1/15/2006 8:35 PM  
Blogger M A F said...

Your comprehension skills are really lacking O-N. Allow me to repost my previous comments for you. First there was Finally a poll that you can believe in. (No denial of the FOX poll here.)

Followed by, I could resort to your ploy eh O-N, and deny the validity of the poll results without ever citing evidence to support the point. (Hmm, no denial of the FOX poll here.)

I also wrote, I have no doubt that there will be another poll like the AP/Ipsos poll that undercuts the FOX poll results. It is a matter of time. (Hmmm. no denial of the FOX poll here either.)

Of course, the FOX poll did not ask respondents directly about illegal wiretaps and opening mail.

Foilwoman made several salient points that you might want to consider.

But perhaps the most revealing thing about your citing of the FOX poll can be found on page 9 (question 39) under the heading of "How concerned are you about the following."

Under the question of "How concerned are you abot the following: Government electronic monitoring programs? 59 percent said that they are very concerned.

This result would indicate that the 61%, 58 % and 60% that you and the FOX are quick to hype are contradicted by question #39. (You should read question #34 as well.)

Of course you can always disregard the FOX poll because they polled a larger number of Democrats that Republicans.

1/15/2006 9:23 PM  
Blogger Sarah Elaine said...

Sheesh! You don't check in for a couple of days and a full-blown debate strikes up in your absence!

Interesting topic polls... We studied this phenomena in one of my Ph.D. research courses last term... Mostly we looked at how data are collected, reported... and possibly skewed. (Not implying that any data were skewed in the polls mentioned here, of course!)

But it does fascinate me how we put lots of faith in them.

Well, I will have to check in more regularly, Mac! You're sparking all kinds of reactions here... (but then again, you like that, don't you? Hee hee!)

1/15/2006 10:20 PM  
Blogger M A F said...

Sarah, I dare say it was short lived. I can only hope to engender greater participation from others.

I recieved an indirect threat from an anonymous poster, involving luck and a 2x4.

I have Oh Canada part 3 in waiting in the wings.

1/16/2006 8:23 PM  
Blogger Blogenfreude said...

Personally, I find vegans more worrisome than terrorists.

1/17/2006 7:11 AM  
Blogger Foilwoman said...

Blogenfreude: You betcha. And when they invite you over, you know there isn't going to be any truly yummy food. That's worrisome.

1/17/2006 7:15 AM  

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